{"id":282136,"date":"2018-08-03T07:38:46","date_gmt":"2018-08-03T14:38:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/staging.tcpcharms.com\/bjpenn\/?p=282136"},"modified":"2018-08-03T07:38:46","modified_gmt":"2018-08-03T14:38:46","slug":"herb-dean-discusses-12-6-elbow-controversy-in-poirier-vs-alvarez-rematch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/staging.tcpcharms.com\/bjpenn\/mma-news\/herb-dean\/herb-dean-discusses-12-6-elbow-controversy-in-poirier-vs-alvarez-rematch\/","title":{"rendered":"Herb Dean discusses 12-6 elbow controversy in Poirier vs. Alvarez rematch"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Last Saturday night, in the main event of UFC on Fox 30 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, Dustin Poirier picked up one of the biggest wins of his career, stopping former champ Eddie Alvarez with a second-round volley. Unfortunately, Poirier&#8217;s win was shadowed by a bit of controversy.<\/p>\n<p>Moments before Poirier poured on the offence to get the TKO, Alvarez had him in full-mount against the cage. After Alvarez grabbed the fence, clawed Poirier&#8217;s ear, and landed a <a href=\"http:\/\/staging.tcpcharms.com\/bjpenn\/mma-news\/eddie-alvarez\/coach-admits-he-accidentally-advised-eddie-alvarez-to-throw-a-12-6-elbow-i-feel-horrible\/\">12-6 elbow<\/a> \u2014 all illegal maneuvers \u2014 referee <a href=\"http:\/\/staging.tcpcharms.com\/bjpenn\/mma-news\/marc-goddard\/marc-goddard-addresses-controversial-standup-in-dustin-poirier-vs-eddie-alvarez-fight\/\">Marc Goddard stood the pair up<\/a> and re-set them in the standing position.<\/p>\n<p>The feeling among some fans is that Goddard should have just given Alvarez a warning and let him continue to work from guard, rather than standing the pair up, which ultimately spelled the end for Alvarez.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking on <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/C0qWwmNipxw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The MMA Hour<\/a> this week, veteran MMA referee Herb Dean discussed this controversial series of events.<\/p>\n<p id=\"XxdlAQ\">\u201cSo as a referee, we have some choices,\u201d Dean explained (transcribed by Marc Raimondi for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mmafighting.com\/2018\/8\/3\/17633702\/herb-dean-breaks-down-referee-protocol-for-12-to-6-elbows-in-light-of-ufc-on-fox-30-situation\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">MMA Fighting<\/a>). \u201cWe can give warnings. We can stop the action, give a firm warning. We can stop the action and take away an advantageous position. Or we can also take away points. \u2026 Of course, if someone gained an advantage or harmed a person during an illegal technique, what we\u2019re supposed to do is try to balance that out, we can take a point or take a position. We try to balance that out by those things.\u201d<\/p>\n<p id=\"i5i7aX\">\u201cWhat comes into play, there is some latitude on how the referee is gonna enforce the rule,\u201d Dean continued, explaining that a referee has some freedom when making in-cage decisions. \u201cI know we try to lock these things down with a lot of rules and procedures and mechanics, so that we can take as much of that latitude out. But I don\u2019t agree with doing that, because each fight is its own situation and we\u2019re gonna have to trust the referee\u2019s discretion at some times.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Whatever the case, Herb Dean feels, like many members of the MMA community, that the 12-6 elbow probably shouldn&#8217;t be illegal.<\/p>\n<p id=\"IkhqR0\">\u201cI think it\u2019s a rule that we have to look at,\u201d Dean said. \u201cI think it\u2019s a rule that everybody in the sport, all the regulators [have to] look at that rule. It\u2019s one that definitely deserves some conversation.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"c-entry-content\">\n<p id=\"wZ1Vmk\">\u201cFor the situation where the fight happened, I don\u2019t think the rule really makes a lot of sense to use it there,\u201d he continued. \u201dI don\u2019t think that elbow should be any different than any other elbow.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>What do you think of these comments from Herb Dean?<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><i>This article first appeared on\u00a0<\/i><a href=\"http:\/\/staging.tcpcharms.com\/bjpenn\/\"><span class=\"s1\"><i>BJPENN.COM<\/i><\/span><\/a><i>\u00a0on 8\/3\/2018.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Last Saturday night, in the main event of UFC on Fox 30 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, Dustin Poirier picked up one of the biggest wins of his career, stopping former champ Eddie Alvarez with a second-round volley. Unfortunately, Poirier&#8217;s win was shadowed by a bit of controversy. 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