With his career in prize-fighting on the shelf, and his gig at FOX out-the-door, Chael P. Sonnen finds himself in an interesting predicament. He’s got fans, charisma, value, and no place to use it.

During a recent talk on the “Talk is Jericho” podcast, Chael broke down how his pro-wrestling negotiations are going.

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“I got a call about two days before I was suspended. A WWE exec calls me up, and he said, ‘We read what you’re going through, we’re not interested.’ So I’m thinking, ‘why did you call me?’ He said ‘If you were 24 years old, you’d be making a whole jackpot full of money … but we think [rival wrestling promotion] TNA is going to be calling you and if they do, we want back in the game.’ So I was like, OK, now at least I get we’re you’re coming from.”