Check out this somewhat awkward interview with former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski and MMA Fighting’s Ariel Helwani. Helwani has been known to have some issues with fighters in the past, such as Quinton “Rampage” Jackson. There seems to be some kind of strain between the two in the video interview seen above.

Check out the interview where you can be the judge as Arlovski and Helwani talk about everything from smelling nice, the talk of money for starring in a reality show, to the fighters from the JacksonWink Academy including Jon Jones going to support the team at UFC 195 on Jan. 2.